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Round Up June 2022


Round up is the monthly show on The Recruiting Future Podcast channel that highlights episodes you may have missed and gives you my take on some of the key learnings from the guests.
Episodes mentioned in this Round Up:

Ep 442: Lessons From Elite Cycling

Ep 443: The Nowhere Office

Ep 444: Workplace Culture

Ep 445: Happiness At Work

Ep 446: The Competitive Advantage Of Employee Experience

Ep 447: Dealing With Disruption

Ep 448: Proving The Business Value Of Talent Marketing


Matt Alder (0s):
Before we start the Round Up episode, just a quick message to let you know that I’m going to be on a holiday for some of July. And this means there’s going to be fewer episodes of the show, than normal. Please, don’t worry, I have some fantastic new content to share, and I’ll also be resurfacing, some older episodes of the show that you might have missed out on the first time round. And normal service will resume as soon as I return and we’ll be back to two episodes a week from August onwards.

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Matt Alder (1m 34s):
Hi there, this is Matt Alder. Welcome to the June Roundup episode of The Recruiting Future Podcast. If you’ve not listened to Round Up before, it’s a short review of the episodes that I’ve published in the last month to make sure that you don’t miss out on the valuable insights my guests are sharing. So, May and June have been so full of travel for me that this is the first Round Up episode for a couple of months. I’ve always been a big fan of everybody working, but it’s so nice to be able to be back face-to-face at industry events, meeting old friends, finally meeting people I’ve only ever spoken to on Zoom, making new connections, and discussing the future of recruiting.

Matt Alder (2m 16s):
A big thank you to all of you that I’ve met over the last few weeks for the conversation and the ideas. And thanks so much to everyone who said nice things about the podcast. It really is very much appreciated.

Ep 442: Lessons From Elite Cycling (2m 30s):
I’m a firm believer in looking outside the talent acquisition universe to see what lessons we can learn from other disciplines and areas. Elite sport is always an interesting parallel as selecting and developing talent is a critical aspect of building a winning team. My guest on episode 442 of the show was Mehdi Kordi, the coach of the Dutch national track cycling team. The Dutch team have had a massive amount of success in recent years, including winning three golds, a silver and a bronze at the last Olympics, despite having considerably fewer resources and less funding than some of their competitors.

Ep 442: Lessons From Elite Cycling (3m 10s):
It was fantastic to hear first-hand from Mehdi how they have achieved this, and there are some very valuable lessons here from TA leaders everywhere about spotting talent, building resilience, and getting the best out of your people.

Ep 443, 444, 445 (3m 26s):
All around the world, debates about hybrid and remote working rumble on as employers and employees experiment to find mutually agreeable and effective ways of working. There is a lot of noise in the debate around the future of work, and I really want to cut through this. With that in mind, I’m going to focus 443, 444, 445 on the future of work, exploring the real issues, looking at the practical solutions that are being put in place and taking an informed look at what the future might look like.

Ep 443: The Nowhere Office (4m 2s):
My first guest in this mini-series is writer, speaker, and consultant Julia Hobsbawm, author of the brilliant book “The Nowhere Office”. In her book, Julia explores what is happening at the moment in the context of workplace changes over the last few decades and examines the current issues to help map the future.

Ep 444: Workplace Culture (4m 24s):
For episode 444, I was delighted to welcome Bruce Daisley back to the show as my next feature focus guest. Bruce Daisley is a speaker, author and workplace culture enthusiast. Previously a VP at Twitter, Bruce now hosts one of the world’s most popular podcasts on making work better. We talk through some of the most critical issues in Workplace Culture today, explored how they might develop in the future, and considered the long-term implications for talent acquisition.

Ep 445: Happiness At Work (4m 58s):
Having spoken extensively to Julia and Bruce about our physical relationship with the workplace I wanted to also explore Happiness At Work. My final guest in this feature of work mini-series was Lord Mark Price in episode 445. Lord Mark Price, was previously was CEO of Waitrose and Deputy Chairman of The John Lewis Partnership, and the former UK Minister for Trade. He now works for his business WorkL to help employers increase workplace happiness, using some of the lessons he learned during his time at John Lewis.

Ep 446: The Competitive Advantage Of Employee Experience (5m 36s):
We discussed what employers can do to build a happier workforce and how workplace happiness can be used to build competitive advantage in talent acquisition. Employee Experience as a Competitive Advantage is a theme I continue to explore in episode 446 with Mayra Chimienti, COO of Mister Carwash, the largest and fastest growing car wash operator in North America. Mister Car Wash is a certified Great Place to Work that has built a category-leading employee experience. And Mayra talked us through the business advantages. It brings in terms of talent acquisition, retention, productivity, and excellence in customer service.

Ep 447: Dealing With Disruption (6m 22s):
Back in 2020, there was an acknowledgement that talent acquisition had changed forever, but a sense that things would eventually stabilize into a new normal. Two and a half years later it’s clear the only new normal is continual long-term disruption, change, and uncertainty. So what should TA leaders focus on to give their organisations the best chance of maintaining a competitive advantage in these challenging times? My guest in episode 447 was Hayli Thornhill, Head of Recruiting at Brighthire. Hayli is an experienced TA Leader with experience in both start-ups and large corporates.

Ep 447: Dealing With Disruption (7m 5s):
She has some insightful advice on dealing with disruption and preparing for an uncertain future. We discussed auditing tech stacks, evolving the recruitment process, and a lot more besides.

Ep 448: Proving The Business Value Of Talent Marketing (7m 18s):
Measuring the impact of talent marking in a way that aligns with the rest of the business and demonstrates value for the C-suite has always been challenging. TA leaders often find themselves judged by measures and outcomes they don’t fully control, which are impossible to translate into business value. So how do you prove the business impact of recruitment marketing and employer branding, particularly in such volatile times? My final guest of the month in episode 448 was Nick Thompson, Global Talent Marketing Leader at IBM. Nick and his team have been working on this issue for a while and have devised a way of measuring the value of talent marketing that resonates with the C-Suite and provides a laser focus for optimization and improvement.

Ep 448: Proving The Business Value Of Talent Marketing (8m 9s):
This is an absolutely must listen for everyone in talent acquisition. What Nick and his team are doing is a real game changer.

Matt Alder (8m 19s):
So onwards into July. And as I mentioned at the top of the show, I’m going to be on holiday for some of the month. So they will be fewer episodes than normal for the next three weeks, but I promise there will still be plenty of new content to help you through your summer. Finally, I wanted to say a special thank you to the team at Paradox. Paradox are one of my main sponsors for the first part of 2022 and are sponsoring these Round Up episodes. You can check out all the great things they do by going to If you haven’t already, you can subscribe to this podcast in apple podcasts on Spotify or via your podcasting app of choice.

Matt Alder (8m 60s):
You can search all the past episodes at On that site you can also subscribe to the mailing list to get the inside track about everything that’s coming up on the show. Thanks very much for listening. I’ll be back next time and I hope you’ll join me.

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