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Round Up November 2022


Round up is the monthly show on The Recruiting Future Podcast channel that highlights episodes you may have missed and gives you my take on some of the key learnings from the guests.

Episodes mentioned in this Round Up:

Ep 471: Employer Brand Challenges

Ep 472: Inclusive Assessment

Ep 473: The Power Of Difference

Ep 474: Talent In Tech

Ep 475: Defining Talent

Ep 476: Digital Talent At PepsiCo

Ep 477: Innovation In Hourly Hiring

Ep 478: Developing Talent Intelligence

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Matt Alder (18s):
Hi there, This is Matt Alder. Welcome to the November roundup episode of the Recruiting Future podcast. If you’ve not listened to Roundup before, it’s a short review of the episodes that I’ve published in the last month to make sure you don’t miss out on the valuable insights my guests are sharing. So we’ve had another month of record listens for the podcast. Thank you all so much for listening, sharing, and supporting. I could not run this show without you. I’m not actually surprised that November was a record month because the guest lineup was strong and diverse. As we move towards an uncertain 2023, the conversations focused on the issues and topics that are likely to shape the year ahead.

Matt Alder (Ep 471: Employer Brand Challenges) (1m 4s):
First up for the month was a deep dive into employer branding on episode 471, a volatile talent acquisition market and the immense disruption we are seeing to traditional ways of working our driving significant changes in employer branding strategies. Culture, EVP, and employer brand marketing are going through a period of intense evolution, and it is essential to understand what’s happening in this space. My guest was Charu Malhotra, Global Head of Talent Branding and Recruitment Marketing at PA Consulting. In our wide-ranging conversation recorded at UNLEASH World in Paris, we discussed some of the current issues in employer branding, culture, and retention.

Matt Alder (Ep 472: Inclusive Assessment) (1m 51s):
As the move towards skills-based hiring intensifies, the role of assessment tools is becoming increasingly important. As employers focus on being more inclusive, it is critical to understand how the science behind assessment tools works to support this. My guest in episode 472 was Kristin Allen, Senior Manager of Psychometrics at SHL. SHL has an applied research initiative, SHL Labs, driving talent technology innovation. One of the key research pillars is Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, and SHL has recently published the first results from its neurodiversity research program.

Matt Alder (Ep 472: Inclusive Assessment) (2m 35s):
It was great to discuss emerging best practice and the role assessment plays in helping employers build diverse workforces.

Matt Alder (Ep 473: The Power Of Difference) (2m 46s):
DE&I remains a major priority for employers, but progress is slow and sometimes completely stuck. So how should companies be thinking about diversity, and what practical actions can they take to build and benefit from teams of difference? In episode 473, I spoke to broadcaster and Consultant Simon Shaw. Simon is a very well-known figure in the UK and has recently published an excellent book, “The Power Of Difference.” He advocates that progress comes when employers move away from the jargon around DE&I and genuinely understand how building a diverse workforce will drive their specific business objectives.

Matt Alder (Ep 473: The Power Of Difference) (3m 32s):
Some great stuff here on redesigning the recruitment process to challenge assumptions and be better at diverse hiring.

Matt Alder (Ep 474: Talent In Tech) (3m 40s):
With the news cycle currently dominated by significant layoffs in large tech companies, it is essential to take a step back and consider the longer-term picture. Many employers are still struggling to find the right tech talent. Recent research has shown that skill shortages will continue for years as education systems are not setting students up with the right skills for our AI-dominated future. So what should employers be doing right now to recruit and develop tech professionals, and what is the impact of remote and hybrid working on early careers talent? My guest this week is Atli Thorkelsson, VP of Talent Network at Redpoint Ventures.

Matt Alder (Ep 474: Talent In Tech) (4m 26s):
Atli advises start-ups across Redpoint’s portfolio on talent acquisition and development. He has some important insights to share on the current state of the market and the strategies employers need to adopt to deal with the longer terms challenges.

Matt Alder (Ep 475: Defining Talent) (4m 45s):
Skills based hiring continues to be a growing trend as employers rethink how they attract and assess talent. So how do you define what good looks like and identify the right hires for your organization? My guest in episode 475 was Leadership Strategist and Talent Consultant Ginny Clarke, who formerly ran executive hiring programmes at Google. Ginny is a strong advocate of competency-based recruiting. We talked about the increasing importance of looking past employment history and education, deconstructing job roles into the required skills, and defining and identifying talent.

Matt Alder (Ep 476: Digital Talent At PepsiCo) (5m 25s):
We looked at tech hiring again in episode 476, but this time in the context of a multinational enterprise employer. With such a focus on layoffs, it’s perhaps easy to forget that digital transformation is still driving a massive need for tech talent in employers all over the world. Despite the current economic headwinds, long-term trends are in play that requires specific operating and employer brand strategies, particularly in companies that are not traditionally seen as being digital. My guest on this episode was Blair Bennett, Senior Vice President Global Talent Acquisition at PepsiCo.

Matt Alder (Ep 476: Digital Talent At PepsiCo) (6m 7s):
Digital transformation is creating a significant need for tech talent in their business. In our conversation, Blair talks about the strategy they are putting in place to hire the people they need as well as some of the tactics they’re using to execute on this strategy such as talent intelligence and personalization.

Matt Alder (Ep 477: Innovation In Hourly Hiring) (6m 25s):
Hourly hiring remains challenging for many employers, and again despite the worsening economic outlook, it will likely remain a huge challenge for several years to come. So what innovations are we seeing in how employers approach Hourly Hiring and in the technology they are using? What does good look like now, and how will automation define the future? In episode 477, I spoke to Sean Behr, CEO of Fountain. Over the last few years, Fountain has helped companies hire over 13 million hourly paid workers in more than 75 countries. In the interview, we talked about the challenges in hourly hiring, the strategies and methodologies successful employers are using to overcome them, and why Sean considers hourly hiring to be the most innovative place to be in talent acquisition.

Matt Alder (Ep 478: Developing Talent Intelligence) (7m 23s):
Talent Intelligence is on the rise with an increasing number of TA teams putting data at the core of their strategy. However, do employers genuinely understand the full potential of talent intelligence? How do you get started and what s the business case for building a specialist resource? My guest on episode 478 was Toby Culshaw, Talent Intelligence Leader at Worldwide Amazon Stores. Toby is one of the global pioneers of talent intelligence, having built teams and Philips and Amazon. He has also recently released his first book, “Talent Intelligence – Use Business and People Data to Drive Organizational Performance”

Matt Alder (Ep 478: Developing Talent Intelligence) (8m 10s):
Suffice to say, this is a must-listen interview for anyone who wants to know more about the development of talent intelligence and the capabilities needed to drive genuine business value.

Matt Alder (8m 21s):
I wanted to say a special thank you to my sponsors for the month, Fountain and Hired. You can check out Fountain’s innovative hourly hiring technology at, and you can see the great work Hired is doing in sales and technology A big thank you to all the companies who sponsored the podcast this year. I would not have been able to publish it without your help. On that note, details of sponsorship packages for next year are now available. Please get in touch if you’re interested in supporting the podcast in 2023. So, onwards into December, I’m determined to finish the year on a high with lots of great valuable content.

Matt Alder (9m 6s):
I already have interviews live with Neil Barnett, director of Inclusive Hiring and Accessibility at Microsoft, Dave Jenkins from Wave, talking about job boards and bestselling authors, Alex Hurst and Lizzie Penny, sharing their insights on remote first working. Coming up later in the month, I’ve got a fascinating interview with Marow Porini, chief Design Officer at PepsiCo, and right before Christmas, I’m gonna have a productivity week to set us up for 2023 with interviews from Tiago Forte on building a Second Brain and focus project legend Eric Coleman. I’m also working on something special to end the year, so make sure you subscribe to the show in Apple Podcasts, on Spotify or wherever you get your Podcasts.

Matt Alder (9m 52s):
Finally, make sure you go to to subscribe to my monthly newsletter, Recruiting Future Feast. Thanks very much for listening. I’ll be back next time and I hope you’ll join me.

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