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Round Up April 2023


Round up is the monthly show on The Recruiting Future Podcast channel that highlights episodes you may have missed and gives you my take on some of the key learnings from the guests.

Episodes mentioned in this Round Up:

Ep 510: Candidate Experience 2023

Ep 511: How To Be A Global Employer Of Choice

Ep 512: Being More Agile

Ep 513: Building Connection In A Hybrid World

Ep 514: Build, Maintain & Leverage Your Network

Ep 515: AI And The Future Of Talent Acquisition

Ep 516: The Changing Workforce

Ep 517: Aligning Benefits To Values

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Matt Alder (1m 4s):
Hi there. This is Matt Alder. Welcome to the April Round Up Episode of the Recruiting Future Podcast. If you don’t listen to Round Up before, it’s a short review of the episode that I’ve published in the last month to make sure you don’t miss out on the valuable insights my guests are sharing. So last week, I spent a very intense 72 hours at Unleash America in Las Vegas talking to a large selection of the very forward-thinking practitioners and vendors who are attending. It’s becoming very clear that our industry is being disrupted at a faster pace than any of us thought possible. I’ll be publishing some of the conversations I had as podcasts over the next few weeks.

Matt Alder (1m 45s):
In the meantime though, looking back at the episodes I published in April, they really do come together to form a guide that can help us navigate these changing times. Between them, they cover the evolution of talent acquisition, the changing world of work, and some of the individual skills we need to develop and thrive in our careers. Our first stop in April was to chat with Kevin Grossman for Episode 510. Kevin is president of the Talent Board, the organizers of the Candidate Experience Awards, an ongoing global benchmark research into the candidate experience. Over the last decade or so, we finally realized that the candidate experience isn’t a one-off project.

Matt Alder (2m 26s):
It’s an ever-evolving theme that runs through talent acquisition, strategy, measurement, and continuous improvement are crucial. Kevin has a massive amount of data-based insight to share on the current state of the candidate experience worldwide and its post-pandemic trends. It’s now three years since the pandemic changed many people’s work trajectories. While some companies have returned to the office and others are desperately trying to, remote and hybrid work continue to be the norm for many organizations. So putting aside noisy narratives and vested interests, trying to take us back to the pre-pandemic status quo, what are the actual benefits and challenges of a distributed workforce?

Matt Alder (3m 10s):
Also, with the opening of global talent pools, what can employers do to position themselves as an employer of choice in 2023? My guest on Episode 511 was Sarah Fern, Chief People Officer at Velocity Global. Velocity Global has employees working remotely across six time zones and 27 countries, and Sarah has some very valuable thoughts to share on the benefits and challenges of being a distributed eEmployer. As we move through 2023, the pace of disruption continues to intensify. The complexities and implications of the economic and technological landscapes are overwhelming.

Matt Alder (3m 56s):
It’s increasingly difficult to break out of short-term thinking and make the long-term strategic decisions that are now needed. Over the last few years, the word agile has been somewhat overused, but does it hold the key to unlocking the future potential of talent acquisition? My guest for Episode 512 was Joshua Kerievsky, Founder and CEO of Industrial Logic, and author of a new book called The Joy of Agile In our conversation, Joshua revisits the original definition of agile and shares six mantras to help all TA leaders during these challenging times. One of the biggest challenges of remote and hybrid working is the lack of face-to-face connection that humans need to be fully engaged and productive.

Matt Alder (4m 45s):
This is always one of the main arguments for employers attempting to return their workers to the office. However, the advantages of remote and hybrid working are considerable, and forcing people to work five days a week back in an office isn’t necessarily the best way of dealing with the challenges. So, what can employers do to foster a sense of connection, belonging, and engagement, and provide the scaffolding for high-performing teams? On Episode 513, I spoke to Sophie Bailey, co-founder and CEO of WorkTripp. WorkTripp is an Airbnb for business offsites and we talked about a number of topics including the importance of face-to-face connection, how offsites can increase retention and drive creative ideation, and how to design them effectively.

Matt Alder (5m 36s):
Talent acquisition is changing. Work is changing and careers are changing. It has perhaps never been more critical to build and cultivate a professional network. As an industry that spends most of its collective working day on LinkedIn, we like to think we do this well. But do we really understand how to build, maintain, and leverage our networks in these disruptive times? My guest on Episode 514 was Michael Melcher, an executive coach, leadership expert, and author of a new book called Your Invisible. Network. In our conversation, we discuss how networks are changing and the networking skills needed to build deeper, more powerful relationships that transform careers.

Matt Alder (6m 25s):
The public launch of ChatGPT continues to drive enormous levels of hype about the impact of AI on life, the universe, and everything. So, what are the implications of generative AI on talent acquisition? How will it shape the development of recruiting technology and what will candidates think of the changing balance between humans and machines in recruiting? My guest on Episode 515 was the perfect person to give us some answers. Adam Godson is Chief Product Officer at Paradox, and his unique combination of experience in the industry means he has a deep understanding of the potential of AI and the likely future direction of talent acquisition.

Matt Alder (7m 8s):
This one really is a must-listen-to conversation where we talked about the future implications of AI for recruiting and recruiting technologies. The balance of the workforce is changing. Remote working, talent scarcity, and evolving attitudes to jobs and careers are driving increasing use of contractors, freelancers, and fractional workers. However, the practicalities of managing this changing workforce are significant, including everything from building a culture to ensuring that everyone gets paid on time. So how should employers approach this? What role can technology play and how can they turn the challenges into opportunities?

Matt Alder (7m 50s):
On Episode 516, I spoke to Richard Prime, co-founder and CEO of Sonovate. Richard has some fascinating insights to share on the state of the market and how fintech innovations are creating opportunities for employers and staffing agencies in our new world of work. For many companies, remote and hybrid working has spotlighted compensation and benefit strategies. How do you determine pay levels for the same job across different national and international geographies? And how can you use benefits as a talent magnet when some traditional location-based benefits are no longer as relevant?

Matt Alder (8m 33s):
My guest on Episode 517 was Anitra St. Hilaire, VP of People at Threeflow. Anitra has considerable experience in this area and shared some very innovative thinking in our conversation. A big thank you to Sonovate and Paradox who sponsored the podcast in March. You can find out more about their innovative products and services at and So onwards into April and no overseas travel for me this month, but I’m very much looking forward to keynoting the Executive Research Association Conference in London next week. I’ll be talking about the future of talent acquisition, which is somewhat of a moving target at the moment. We’ve also got some great episodes of the podcast coming up, including all my interviews from Unleash some great conversations on employer branding, as well as discussions on social mobility and technology driving disruption.

Matt Alder (9m 24s):
So don’t miss out. If you haven’t already, then make sure you subscribe to the show in Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Finally, make sure you go to and Subscribe to the monthly newsletter, Recruiting Future Feast. Thanks very much for listening. I’ll be back next time and I hope you’ll join me.

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