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Round Up March 2023


Round up is the monthly show on The Recruiting Future Podcast channel that highlights episodes you may have missed and gives you my take on some of the key learnings from the guests.

Episodes mentioned in this Round Up:

Ep 502: Digital Talent One Year On

Ep 503: Climate Jobs

Ep 504: The Future Of Video Interviewing

Ep 505: Accelerating Change

Ep 506: Changing Expectations Of Work

Ep 507: Skills Based Hiring In Early Careers

Ep 508: Scaling Up With Video Interviewing

Ep 509: Making Employer Branding Indispensable

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Matt Alder (1m 6s):
Hi there. This is Matt Alder. Welcome to the March Roundup Episode of the Recruiting Future Podcast. If you’ve not listened to Roundup before, it’s a short review of the episodes that I’ve published in the last month to make sure you don’t miss out on the valuable insights that my guests are sharing. The last few weeks have been absolutely dominated by AI discussion as Chat GPT and a seemingly endless parade of other tools push the incredible leaps forward we’re seeing in technology right to the center of public discourse. The combination of this technological disruption and the current economic uncertainty is causing all of us to think deeply about the future of talent acquisition.

Matt Alder (1m 52s):
The Recruiting Future podcast recently passed 2 million downloads. And to celebrate this milestone and to help you cut through some of the noise out there around the future, I’m running a webinar looking at The Road Ahead for Talent Acquisition. It’s taking place on Tuesday, April the 18th at 11:00 AM Eastern time. And a recording will be made available for everyone who registers. So don’t worry if your calendar or time zone doesn’t align to watch it live. You can register for the webinar by going to That’s

Matt Alder (Episode 502) (2m 32s):
March was another great month for the podcast with eight interviews across the selection of very relevant topics. First up in episode 502, I welcomed my co-author Mervyn Dinnen, back to the show to celebrate the year anniversary of the publication of our book Digital Talent. With so much change and disruption going on, we wanted to discuss the book’s key themes and explore how things have developed over the last year. The topics we talk about include strategic hiring, results versus noise in DE&I, talent mobility, AI, personalization, skills, and the new future of work.

Matt Alder (Episode 502) (3m 14s):
We recorded a conversation in a proper studio, so there’s also a video version of this podcast, which is worth watching just to take in the full glory of Mervyn’s shirt.

Matt Alder (Episode 503) (3m 26s):
The climate emergency is the greatest challenge humans have ever faced. And, it affects all of us. In August of last year, as part of the Inflation Reduction Act, the US federal government pledged 365 billion to fight climate change. Since then, over 100,000 Climate Jobs have already been created in the US economy. Despite the seriousness of the situation and the obvious relevance to our sector, Climate Jobs and the climate emergency don’t seem to be things we are discussing. This needs to change. So in episode 503, I spoke to Natalie Lavery, Marketing Lead at Climate People, a Climate Tech recruiting firm.

Matt Alder (Episode 503) (4m 14s):
Climate People are fighting to make every job a climate job. It was brilliant to get Natalie’s insight into a critically important market that is full of opportunity. We covered a lot of ground in our discussion exploring what is meant by Climate Jobs, breaking down barriers to get a more diverse selection of talent into Climate Jobs, and the reimagining of the global economy.

Matt Alder (Episode 504) (4m 39s):
In 2013, I wrote a report on the future of asynchronous video interviewing; while a few employers were experimenting with it, there was widespread skepticism about its usefulness and longevity. Fast forward ten years, and we are literally living in a different world. Post-pandemic video now sits at the centre of the working day for many of us, and asynchronous video interviewing is most certainly here to stay. So how are candidate attitudes towards video evolving? What problems is video interviewing, solving for employers, and how will things develop in the future? I wanted to explore all of this across two episodes of the podcast.

Matt Alder (Episode 504) (5m 23s):
First up in episode 504, my guests were the perfect people to answer these questions and give us a deep dive into the market. Phil Strazzulla is the Founder of Select Software Reviews is founder of Select Software Reviews, and Euan Cameron is the CEO at Willo. Our discussion was a mix of practical advice and informed insights about The Future of Video interviewing.

Matt Alder (Episode 508) (5m 44s):
The second part of this mini-series was in episode 508 where I wanted to talk to some practitioners to hear about their experience with video interviewing and to find out more about the benefits and drawbacks and how they wish to see it develop. My guests were both from Hello Fresh. Maximiliano Trujillo Diaz is a Senior Talent Acquisition Partner, and Mubeen Shariff is Senior Manager Workforce Staffing. Hello Fresh has been successfully using video interviews for specialist and high-volume roles, and my guests had some very valuable knowledge to share.

Matt Alder (Episode 505) (6m 20s):
I always knew that the pace of change would accelerate this year, but it’s only March and we’ve seen thousands of tech layoffs, bank failures, and the launch of ChatGPT and now ChatGPT4. Meanwhile, businesses worldwide are still struggling to get the talent they need. The implications for talent acquisition of this pace of change and technological development are profound, and at the moment it doesn’t even feel that there’s time to take a step back and understand them. So what does it all mean? And how should TA leaders adapt and plan for such a dynamic future?

Matt Alder (Episode 505) (6m 60s):
What better time to invite my favorite futurist back to the show to attempt to get some answers? Kevin Wheeler is the founder of The Future Of Talent Institute and one of the great deep thinkers in our industry. In episode 505, Kevin looked back into the past to give us clues about the future and offered some invaluable advice on what we should be focusing on right now.

Matt Alder (Episode 506) (7m 25s):
As we move through the third anniversary of the first lockdowns, it is a good time to reflect on how the pandemic has changed our attitudes and expectations towards work. Employers now have to think very differently about culture, employee experience, and recruiting. The new generation joining the workforce is also driving some very different thinking around career progression. My guest on episode 506 was Abby Hamilton, Chief People Officer at LiveIntent. Abby has valuable insights about the importance of creating a human-centric approach to work where employees feel seen, heard, and recognized.

Matt Alder (Episode 507) (8m 11s):
In these rapidly changing times, it’s increasingly difficult for employers to anticipate how the roles in their business will develop. An ageing workforce is a further complicating factor. The growing consensus is that a skills-based approach to early careers recruiting could give employers the flexibility they need to plan for an uncertain future. But how does skills-based hiring work in early careers and how should employers develop their strategies in this area? My guest on episode 507 was Matt Kirk, Solution Owner – Talent Acquisition at SHL. Matt has a big focus on early careers and has some incredibly valuable insights to share on SHLs pioneering work on skills, competencies, and behaviors.

Matt Alder (Episode 506) (9m 1s):
We talked about the growing interest in soft skills using a single talent language, the skills differences between countries and industries, internal mobility, and the future of early careers hiring. Employer branding is under pressure in many organizations at the moment, and layoffs and budget cuts are hitting the function hard. However, anyone with even the most basic understanding of employer and talent branding can see how short-sighted this is and how vital building an employer brand is for a company’s long-term future So, how can we highlight the importance of employer branding and make employers see it as an essential function?

Matt Alder (Episode 506) (9m 47s):
My guest for episode 509 was Alex Her, Head of Employer Branding at GoDaddy, and a global advocate for its importance. Alex has some excellent advice on illustrating impact and ROI and some interesting insights into the future. If you want to hear more from Alex, he’s speaking at RecFest USA, which is taking place on the 13th and 14th of September in Nashville. Take it from me as someone who’s been to RecFest many times, it’s a unique and hugely valuable experience. You can find out more at and as a Recruiting Future listener, you can get 50% off the ticket price by using the promo code Recruiting Future 23.

Matt Alder (Episode 506) (10m 36s):
That’s Recruiting Future 23.

Matt Alder (10m 38s):
A big thank you to Willo, SHL, and namely who sponsored the podcast in March. So onwards into April, and I’m very excited about attending UNLEASH at Caesar’s Forum in Las Vegas in a couple of week’s time. Please come and say hello if you’re there, and I’m going to be doing some live podcasting from the expo floor. If you haven’t yet got a ticket, if you go to, you can use the discount code RecruitingFuture20att-sh.

Matt Alder (11m 18s):
RecruitingFuture20att-sh to get a 20% discount. We’ve also got some great episodes of the podcast coming up, including interviews on the future of the contingent workforce and the latest research around the candidate experience. So don’t miss out if you haven’t already, then make sure you are subscribe to the show in Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, or wherever you get your Podcasts. Finally, make sure you go to to subscribe to the podcast monthly newsletter, Recruiting Future Feast. Thanks very much for listening. I’ll be back next time and I hope you’ll join me.

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